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Tuesday, August 28, 2012

City Strikes a Deal on South Bar's Liquor License, Decides Not to Revoke

Under the new deal approved Monday night, any new business moving into the former South Bar space can not operate a nightclub.

After months of debate, the Birmingham City Commission decided not to move forward with a plan to revoke the now-closed South Bar's liquor license. Instead, at their Monday night meeting, city commissioners unanimously approved a Memorandum of Understanding that would preserve the liquor license but place strict controls over any business looking to move into the now-empty space at 210 S. Old Woodward Ave. The City Commission was originally scheduled to hold a public hearing on Aug. 13, during which they would have considered asking the Michigan Liquor Control Commission (MLCC) to revoke South Bar's liquor license after a series of public safety incidents at the former downtown bar and restaurant. After a second shooting by bar patrons on …

Lori T. Williams

8:48 am on Sunday, September 2, 2012

I'm glad the parties reached an amicable resolutuion here. As with most settlements, both parties wanted more, but arrived at a scenario that was livable for both. Although the residents didn't get to fully voice their concerns at a public hearing, hopefully any new business that occupies the venue will be an asset to the community and a place for local and area residents and visitors to enjoy. …   more ›

Tuesday, August 14, 2012

City Commission Delays South Bar's Liquor License Revocation Hearing

A new memo from Woodward Tap's attorney convinces the Birmingham City Commission to delay a public hearing on the issue to Aug. 27.

The Birmingham City Commission will have more time to think about revoking South Bar's liquor license, after a last-minute memo prompted commissioners to postpone a public hearing on the issue Monday night. City commissioners were originally scheduled to hold a public hearing Monday night, during which they would consider asking the Michigan Liquor Control Commission (MLCC) to revoke South Bar's liquor license after a series of public safety incidents at the former downtown bar and restaurant. After a second shooting by bar patrons on July 16, the two-year-old bar closed its doors the next day. The first shooting occured on April 2, when a Redford woman discharged a gun in the midst of a fight outside Einstein Bros Bagels. However, before …

Greg Thrasher

12:50 pm on Wednesday, August 15, 2012

@Thomas, I am amazed with the volume of people who are so obessed with my public activism I must be doing something right..lol,lol,lol BTW Thomas I don't drink liquor nor have I ever been intoxicated in my entire adult life once many moons ago when I was a young kid I saw a dram of moonshine on the table of our family priest...Boy did I get dizzy....lol,lol,lol   more ›

Friday, July 27, 2012

Detroit Man Sues Birmingham's South Bar, NFL Player After March Fight

A civil suit against South, five of its bouncers and Arizona Cardinals' player Ronald Talley was filed Wednesday in Oakland County Circuit Court.

Even though they've closed, the South Bar's problems continue. A Detroit man has filed a civil suit against the bar owners, several of its bouncers and NFL player Ronald Talley after a fight at the bar around 2 a.m. on March 26. According to a complaint filed in Oakland County Circuit Court on Wednesday, Talley — a defensive end for the Arizona Cardinals and former Detroit resident — smashed a champagne bottle over the head of Robert Ford, a 30-year-old Detroit resident. Talley, the lawsuit reads, was intoxicated and smashed the bottle several times until the bottle broke, piercing Ford's skull with glass shards. According to Birmingham Police Cmdr. Terry Kiernan, the incident occured in a restroom. Ford told police the next day he didn't …

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R Jeppostol

1:54 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012

Though you might be spot on, South did keep shooting itself over and over in the foot.   more ›

Monday, July 23, 2012

Proposed Hearing to Revoke South's Liquor License Tentatively Set for Aug. 13

A resolution setting a public hearing on South Bar's liquor license will come before the Birmingham City Commission Monday night.

Should Birmingham revoke South Bar's liquor license after the controversial bar and restaurant permanently shut its doors Tuesday? That's the question the Birmingham City Commission will have to consider in the next few weeks, as a proposed hearing revoking the license is tentatively scheduled for Aug. 13. City commissioners will vote Monday night whether to set the hearing. The option to revoke the license comes before the city commission after two controversial and highly-publicized shootings in downtown Birmingham by South Bar patrons. The first occured on April 2, when a Redford woman discharged a gun in the midst of a fight outside Einstein Bros Bagels. The second shooting happened early last week, after a fight by South patrons led …

Racer Boy

3:10 pm on Monday, July 23, 2012

I don't think this question requires much more analysis than has already been conducted. The folks who own this establishment played to and courted the customer-base that frequented their business. South, continually trying to represent itself as a responsible business, does not deserve to operate in Birmingham.   more ›

Tuesday, July 17, 2012

South Bar to Close Following Monday Morning Shooting in Birmingham

Three men were arrested following the shooting, during which no one got hurt, City Manager Bob Bruner said. Meanwhile, the city will schedule a public hearing to consider revoking the bar's liquor license.

Birmingham's South Bar — the downtown restaurant and bar at the center of a recent public safety debate — will be closing its doors after a shooting by bar patrons early Monday morning. Birmingham Police say no was injured during the shooting, which began as a fight on Merrill Street soon after South's closing time, and three men from Southfield and Detroit have been arrested in connection with the incident. According to a statement released by the Birmingham Police Department Tuesday, three men — a 32-year-old from Troy, a 29-year-old from Pontiac and a 28-year-old from Auburn Hills — were leaving South Bar around 2 a.m. Monday when they were assaulted on Merrill Street by two men who had also just left South Bar. Police later identified …

G-Money

1:40 pm on Wednesday, July 25, 2012

A very long list of posts. Let me recap if I may, and add my own two cents: +Douchebags come in all colors and flavors. +Some businesses (aka douchebag magnets) wanted to cash in on how badly douchebags like to look important by spending money. +Douchebags will be douchebags. +Not too many night spots open on Sunday late nights ---> cash in. However those patrons are not your regular 9 to 5-ers …   more ›

Saturday, April 28, 2012

Talking About Safety in Birmingham: Reader Says Club Scene Doesn't Fit in Birmingham

Reader notes that some of Birmingham's nightclubs and certain bars are "square pegs in a round hole"; wonders how Royal Oak and Ferndale handle problems.

This story is part of a series on downtown Birmingham that explores issues raised by recent incidents, as well as the city's response to them. All week, Birmingham Patch has been discussing the issue of public safety in downtown Birmingham, a hot topic of conversation across dinner tables and keyboards due to several recent incidents: Knowing conversations involved many voices, Patch asked for readers' opinions on public safety on Twitter, Facebook and on the site. Several readers responded and this is what one had to say Dorset, 29, is a lifelong resident of Birmingham. After graduating from Seaholm High School in 2001, he now owns a home in Sheffield Estates with his wife and is the social media manager for Entertainment Productions in …

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Blog Post

9:47 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012

If government officials commonly obfuscate and manipulate data - then it follows that the government officials in Berkley (1), Warren (6), Birmingham (4), Royal Oak (5) , Ferndale (2), Clawson(1), Sterling Heights (3). Bloomfield Hills (1) etc quite possibly obfuscated and manipulated the data as well. It then follows that all such data should be ignored, as perhaps Royal Oak had 9 such incidents…   more ›

Friday, April 27, 2012

Talking About Safety in Birmingham: Phoenicia Owner Supports Teen Curfew

Oil executive Lily Epstein Stotland, a curfew and valet cutoff opponent, says: 'We need to have a few late-night venues.'

This story is part of a series on downtown Birmingham  that explores issues raised by recent incidents, as well as the city's response to them. Business owners who live in Birmingham are among those talking about the balance between development that creates vibrancy and situations that may bring violence. "What kind of destination should we be?" asks Samy Eid, an owner of Phoenicia Restaurant, a three-decade local landmark. "I want people to feel safe shopping, dining and walking." The community-wide conversation, which didn't begin this spring, has gained urgency after these events : Some people also are disturbed by knots of teens and young adults near theaters, coffeehouses and ice cream shops in the Principal Shopping District. But …

Melanie Snyder

8:08 am on Sunday, July 22, 2012

Re: Teen Curfew: why doesn't Bham invest in a gathering place for the teens like Carmel in California has done? Teens need a place to congregate. We have ice arenas, golf courses, city parks but no place for teens to hang safely. In addition, teens should be given a curfew as large groups gathering on the streets often leads to group think which often is not smart think.   more ›

Thursday, April 26, 2012

Talking About Safety in Birmingham: Bars With Bouncers May Not Belong in Birmingham

Another resident is 'surprised there is not a teen curfew.'

This story is part of a series on downtown Birmingham that explores issues raised by recent incidents, as well as the city's response to them. The street scene in Birmingham on weekend nights is a provocative topic these days. "Downtown is not looked upon as family friendly by many of the residents in my neighborhood," retired educator Ken Ciszewski said. Police calls and city reactions spark conversations about community tone, being an entertainment destination and regulating nightlife. These spring events are behind the buzz: Concerns also focus on gatherings of young people near theaters, coffeehouses and ice cream shops, a sign of spring. Patch asked dozens of people in Birmingham to express views for this weeklong series on safety in …

R Jeppostol

10:17 am on Thursday, April 26, 2012

who in their right mind agreed to have several dozens of cameras installed around the city spying on everyone. It also makes you wonder why in spite of these cameras the cops aren't able to solve anything. in case anyone hasn't noticed the several dozen or so cameras all throughout the city, here are just a few of the more benign(less invasive) examples. http://www.fluidmesh.com/en/case-studies/…   more ›

Talking About Safety in Birmingham: 'We Don't Need Large Clubs,' Tech Consultant Says

Teacher wants campaign stressing 'strict consequences' for misbehavior. Paralegal feels safe.

This story is part of a series on downtown Birmingham that explores issues raised by recent incidents, as well as the city's response to them. Ambiance is a slippery thing, defined more by intangibles than by data. So it's no shock that a two-week cluster of crimes on Friday, Saturday or Sunday nights provokes anxiety. "It's important that people socializing in Birmingham feel safe," said 38-year-old technology consultant Matt Russell. "That has taken a hit." The hit comes from spring events drawing attention from city leaders, club owners, residents and merchants: Recent concerns also focus on gatherings of young people near theaters, coffeehouses and ice cream shops, a seasonal event. "Curfews will not necessarily change the …

Wednesday, April 25, 2012

Cultural Mix in Downtown Tests Birmingham's Tolerance, Some Feel

'This situation is layered with many teachable moments,' MSU sociologist says of recent police incidents that have spurred outrage among some residents.

This story is part of a series on downtown Birmingham that explores issues raised by recent incidents, as well as the city's response to them. It doesn't take a code-breaker to see barely hidden meanings in some comments about Birmingham nightclubs and the safety concerns surrounding them. References to "outsiders" at South, The Hamilton Room and Chen Chow Brasserie arose in comments at Birmingham Patch and at least two other media sites amid coverage of fights among patrons and late-night gunfire around the corner from South.   "What we don't need are large clubs or party places that draw a certain element," a local parent said this week in a comment for this series; it wasn't published because of its apparent racial reference. "South and…

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Flair Detroit

6:31 pm on Friday, April 27, 2012

I'm glad you used ghetto instead of black because black is not the problem...ghetto is. However, you are making assumptions when you say Detroit promoters. Black people don't just live in Detroit. They live all over the tri-county area. There are numerous black parties everyday of the year where none of the undesired behavior occurs. There have been numerous incidents in Bham where whites are the…   more ›

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