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POLL: Should Michigan Ban Cell Use by Novice Teen Drivers?

Senate-passed bill would affect new motorists with graduated licenses.

Cellphones and the youngest drivers don't go together safely, a majority of Michigan senators believe.

Under a proposal that passed the Senate by a 28-10 vote Thursday, teens with Level 1 or 2 graduated licenses could be ticketed and fined for driving while chatting on a phone – even in hands-free mode.

The bill now goes to the state House. Backers want to reduce risky distractions among newcomers behind the wheel. Some senators voted against the measure because they favor a broader crackdown, the Associated Press reports.

The legislation is called "Kelsey's Law" in memory of a Sault Ste. Marie 17-year-old who had a fatal crash while talking on her phone in 2010.

Teens with Level 3 licenses, typically issued to 17-year-olds, would be allowed to dial and drive. Level 2 drivers have curfew and passenger restrictions, while the first level lets teens drive only when an adult rides along.

One in five drivers using phones during Michigan crashes since 2002 were teens, MLive Media Group reports. State drivers aged 16 or 17 crashed 841 times during the past decade.

Thirty states restrict some or all drivers from cell use.

Nickel February 20, 2013 at 07:09 pm
How in the world did mankind survive when there were no telephones and then when they came into existence it was phone booths that we had to use. Amazing Danielle that the only time you can talk is when in your car, good thing you didn't have to survive the teens thru 70's, because cell phones were non existent and you certainly would not have made it thru life if all you can do is talk on a phone while driving. Your poor soul
laplateau February 20, 2013 at 07:15 pm
Oh, thanks Bill, for the well thought out response. I did notice, however, there was not an iota of response to my points. Do both you and Duke belong to the same Mensa group? Oh, well, you probably have no idea what I am talking about...I guess I use too many syllables and use a bit logic. Yes, we should never talk about politics or national news and have an opinion. Go back and sit down and catch up on the re-runs of watch Jersey Shore and Dancing With The Stars...so much easier for you and it doesn’t hurt your brain to think.
Meredith McCutcheon February 20, 2013 at 07:17 pm
How do I stop following this thread? I'm getting notifications every time someone responds, and it's filling up my inbox (not to mention dominating the ticker).
Jason Alley (Editor) February 20, 2013 at 07:21 pm
Hey, Meredith.
If you go right above the very first comment on this story, you should see a link that says "Stop following." Clicking on that will end the email notifications.
Meredith McCutcheon February 20, 2013 at 07:29 pm
Thank you!
The Duke of Royal Oak February 20, 2013 at 07:34 pm
laplateau-And you may go look for a birth certificate and Muslim records. Go watch your Sarah Palin and FOX News!
The Duke of Royal Oak February 20, 2013 at 07:38 pm
"THE CONSTITUTION DOES NOT PROTECT THOSE WHOSE VIEWS WE SHARE; IT ALSO PROTECTS THOSE WITH WHOSE VIEWS WE DISAGREE."
SENATOR EDWARD KENNEDY
Bill T February 20, 2013 at 08:31 pm
To Laplateau: I bet you are ugly to boot!!!!
Bill T February 20, 2013 at 08:37 pm
certainly too ugly to have anyone marry you and reproduce! Any parent (or educated adult) knows that teen drivers are too easily distracted and inexperienced as is.
Mike Reno February 20, 2013 at 09:35 pm
I don't think people are questioning whether teens should be allowed to talk.
I think the question is whether the general adult population is intelligent enough to talk and drive. It seems that the general consensus on this board is that people are not smart enough... and cannot be trusted to show good judgement.
Sarah Franklin February 20, 2013 at 09:48 pm
FYI... I have in-synch on my Ford Edge and I disconnected it as personally I feel it is distracting talking into the visor/radio. Technology in this case I think is the ill not the cure... and clearly doesn't replace common sense to be focused on what you are doing. I stick by my opinion that use of any mobile device in a vehicle should be limited to when the vehicle is at a full stop and parked.
The Duke of Royal Oak February 20, 2013 at 10:41 pm
Sarah, what a refreshing and wise comment. I agree NO MOBILE DEVICES IN MOVING VEHICLES. The death toll of folks killed by mobile device users is higher than alcohol accidents. I guess not enough people have been killed by mobile phone users to warrant an uprising.
David Anderson February 20, 2013 at 10:42 pm
"please answer why you think using a phone while driving using a hands free telephone is so different than talking to someone next to you in the passenger seat? "
Please refer to pages 5 through 8 and the sidebar on page 8 'How do cell phones differ from talking to passengers...' http://www.nsc.org/safety_road/Distracted_Driving/Documents/Dstrct_Drvng_White_Paper_1_2011.pdf
Sarah Franklin February 20, 2013 at 10:58 pm
You will never convince some that talking into a 'tunnel' while driving is distracting; so that is why I feel the most viable answer to the dilemma is to have very, very stiff penalties for any kind of a moving accident where a mobile device has been used while driving. That way people make choices and for those that are convinced multi-tasking is a god-given right no matter what they are doing, then take on the risk of losing your license and getting a huge fine if you ever just happen to be talking on the phone while driving and are in any accident. However, to be able to enforce this, police do need to have the ability to access cell phone records from all reported accidents. And of course, many will object to that as an invasion of privacy. So don't talk on the phone while driving and you have nothing to worry about- Pretty simple.
Sarah Franklin February 20, 2013 at 11:06 pm
1 other point... My Ford Sync system (with phone now disconnected) is a distraction unto itself. When we bought this car the dealer offered (believe it or not) a full 2 hour training session on how to use all radio, temp control, navigation features. Now If I need two hours to learn how to operate any gadget that I supposedly use while driving that speaks volumes that I shouldn't be using it in the first place- True story!
Lianne Mathie February 21, 2013 at 12:24 am
Wow, two knuckle dragger awards this week laplateau, always comes down to the big bad boogie man in your mind. Keep insulting , your losing your Mensa points rapidly.
laplateau February 21, 2013 at 12:30 am
All that sidebar indicates are "studies show" statements...but no reference to who made the study, their credentials or where it can be found. And that idea that talking to people in the car is less dangerous because the passenger is aware of traffic conditions and apparently becomes a back seat driver. So, does that mean only adults can be passengers, only people, under 80, no children, blind people? I don’t buy it. To paraphrase that guy in Jerry McGuire…show me the study!
laplateau February 21, 2013 at 12:36 am
Lianne...thanks for the compliment..At least I take it as such because I see how you abhor those who are "insulting". So, being a "knuckle dragger" in your opinion must be a good thing. Thanks again!
Lianne Mathie February 21, 2013 at 01:19 am
Not a compliment, I was thinking a lower form. I realize I might have insulted the knucle draggers, so we'll go with mouth breather.
Happy rear ending!
laplateau February 21, 2013 at 01:34 am
AW shucks Lianne...stop it please. You are making me blush. Mouth breather...rear ender. Wow, it's such a pleasure to converse like this with such a "lady" as you. Tell me, do you talk like this all the time? Bet you get lots of dates...or if married, what a "lucky" guy he is. By the way, what makes you think I am a guy?? And, why should I think yo are a "lady"?
Taxed Enuff Already February 21, 2013 at 01:58 am
Would one of you mercy killing moderators please do us all a favor and put this thread out of its misery?
Lianne Mathie February 21, 2013 at 02:04 am
Gender neutral observation. I will admit you're knee jerk reactions to the smallest disagreement land you squarley in the bat s%#! Crazy section.
Please don't follow too close, I do look in my rear view and I will sue if I have to. Happy rearending.
Lianne Mathie February 21, 2013 at 02:22 am
I guess it really comes down to the political tourette's syndrome that's the end result of all disagreements you seem to have. It's your fall back. Bengazi should surface soon, it's just a matter of time. I'm sure this relates to the subject at hand, somehow???????
Lee Jacobsen February 21, 2013 at 05:46 am
Lianne, Where was Obama during the Bengazi incident anyway? On his car cell phone getting distracted? Why is he still on the campaign trail when he has won already?
Pretty soon technology will do the driving for us as well, then no more accidents.
christopher February 21, 2013 at 12:51 pm
Can the patch please retire this thread, it has gone way off course.....
Lianne Mathie February 21, 2013 at 01:29 pm
Oh Lee, I suppose he was where Bush was during the Pat Tillman debacle.;)
To the second point, probably not in our lifetime in Michigan, we like to drive our cars.We have a wildly independent streak here.
laplateau February 21, 2013 at 01:38 pm
Lianne...you equation of Bush and the Tillman death is specious at best. You have absolutely no comprehension of the horror of actual armed combat. Tillman was killed by friendly fire, something that thankfully has been rare in the recent conflicts in the Middle East, but was certainly much more common in other of our country’s wars. And, what does that have to do with Bush anyway? He was the Commander in Chief, not the commanders on the ground…not that they could have done anything about it. If you want to comment about Bush and your hatred of him, fine, but please do not in the slightest even hint of Tillman’s death in a political sense. You should be standing erect and saluting at the mention of his name!
laplateau February 21, 2013 at 01:43 pm
Lianne, you are gettiung more bizarre by the post. By the way, I love that picture of you...and here I thought you might be a woman, but now I get it. You are a female dog...to put it nicely.
Meredith McCutcheon February 21, 2013 at 01:51 pm
Yes, please!!
Joni Hubred-Golden (Editor) February 21, 2013 at 01:57 pm
Thanks everyone for contributing, we're closing comments on this thread.

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