Poll: Do You Like the Idea of Streetcars on Woodward?
The latest Detroit light rail proposal envisions a system that would vie with traffic instead of running on a dedicated track and would only travel as far north as Detroit's New Center neighborhood, the Huffington Post Detroit reports.
A planned light rail route along Woodward Avenue in Detroit that got a second chance last week would be more akin to a streetcar system, according to a report on the Huffington Post Detroit website.
Under the latest proposal, the streetcars would have to vie with traffic instead of running on a dedicated track and would only travel as far north as Detroit's New Center neighborhood, the site reported Monday.
"I would call it a streetcar system," M1 Rail executive Matt Cullen told the Huffington Post. "It's initially going to be a circulator and a connector to our Amtrak station. It won't be a commuter system for people out in the suburbs."
M1 Rail is a consortium of private investors that has backed the Detroit light rail project.
The news could be a disappointment for proponents of regional transit.
Previously, the Detroit light rail line would have run from downtown to Eight Mile Road and supporters hoped that eventually it could be extended even farther north, connecting the city and suburbs. A proposed regional transit center in Troy would have provided connecting routes throughout the area.
But, by the end of 2011, hopes for both the light-rail line and the transit center had been dashed.
In December, U.S. Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood, Detroit Mayor Dave Bing and Gov. Rick Snyder rejected the light rail plan in favor of a bus rapid transit system that would be less expensive and quicker to implement. And, the Troy City Council voted 4-3 during the same month to end the regional transit center project that was 12 years in the making and would have been completed using $8.4 million in federal money.
But, last week, light rail supporters – including M1 businessmen Roger Penske, Dan Gilbert, Matt Cullen and Richard Rapson – were able to secure 90 days' grace to prove the Detroit light rail project is financially feasible, according to The Detroit News.
The revised proposal would combine the street car system with a bus rapid transit model, the Huffington Post reports.
On Monday, LaHood told The Detroit News that the government may allocate as much as $25 million more to the revised light rail project in Detroit if the supporters are able to prove their case.
Berkley City Councilman Steve Baker – who was honored in April for his work on the Woodward Avenue Action Association South Oakland Transit-Oriented Development (TOD) Task Force – said in December that a $2 million grant for a study of mass transit alternatives along Woodward north of Eight Mile remains in play.
The grant was received from the Federal Transit Authority by a partnership of six Woodward Avenue communities – Berkley, Huntington Woods, Royal Oak, Ferndale, Pleasant Ridge and Birmingham – and the Southeast Michigan Council of Governments.
"A broader regional transit network is essential to ensure more businesses have access to workers, families have access to entertainment and professionals have access to employment opportunities," Baker said. "All of those things are essential to move the region forward."
He urged residents to contact their state and federal representatives and to email him at swbaker@berkleymich.net to provide their feedback.
What kind of region do you want? What kind of mass transportation system would you like to have in Metro Detroit? Leave a comment to let us know!
Kevin Moser
2:37 pm on Tuesday, January 10, 2012
Offer something energy efficeint, clean, secure, pay for itself and run from Detroit river to pontiac and I would sure look at it. Spending that money on something few from the suburbs will ever use is foolish. Cannot understand why anyone would be for this?
Easydude
5:13 pm on Tuesday, January 10, 2012
Funny, I rode the bus for years back in the 80's. If a SEMTA was scheduled at 9 a.m. it was on time and waited to leave at its scheduled time at that point. It was always the city buses that arrived early or late. We need to address issues of crime before investing in transit.
As crime cross slowly crosses Eight Mile and into the neighborhoods. We should take the money and invest in providing more police and fire persons. I am still waiting for the Mejier's and JCPenny open. Lets, see how things workout below Eight Mile before crossing over.
rolfsy
7:00 pm on Tuesday, January 10, 2012
Crime is coming outwards with or without mass transit. Even with a flimsy transit system whose back was just broken, ferndale still managed to pull off a crimewave. I predict 4 out of 5 thieves would prefer a stolen car over a BRT as a getaway vehicle anyday.
Connie
8:21 pm on Tuesday, January 10, 2012
Could one of the answers on the survey be just plain NO! This country/state/city is broke don't they get that!
Patricia Lang
8:29 am on Wednesday, January 11, 2012
I just returned from Salt Lake City and was very impressed with their street car system which circles the city and goes out to some outlying areas. In the city it is called a free zone passengers only have to pay if they are going further out. It is so disappointing to see haw far behind Detroit is on everything!! Patricia
Syndi
11:00 am on Wednesday, January 11, 2012
Patricia, I agree. I have been to several major cities with mass transit (Berlin, New York, Washington D.C.) and Detroit is in the stone ages. The irony is, Detroit was listed as the city of the future in 1905 why? Because we had light rail all over the place that got ripped out by the Big 3 in the 50's and since then this city has been in steady decline. We need mass transit - period.
Thomas Gagne
8:45 am on Saturday, January 21, 2012
Syndi, but not before the streetcars were taken-over by the city.
http://www.detroittransithistory.info/TheCityTakeover.html
An interesting thing is revealed in the history of Detroit transit--the lines were franchised in a manner not dissimilar to how cable franchises work--and were privately funded and operated.
Of course, that would be the difference between a privately operated bridge to Canada and a government-owned bridge to Canada.