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Police Tell South, Chen Chow, Hamilton Room to Shut Down Valet at Midnight

Ending parking service early for the Birmingham hotspots comes on the heels of a shooting outside South 2 weeks ago. Some believe the move might endanger guests walking to their cars late at night.

 

The Birmingham Police Department said it would be stepping up public safety measures following a shooting outside South Bar on April 2, and now downtown bar owners are feeling the impact.

The owners of South, the Hamilton Room and Chen Chow Brasserie received notice Thursday that valet service must shut down at midnight beginning this weekend, two hours earlier than the bars' 2 a.m. closing times.

The move follows an April 2 shooting outside South Bar, in which a 29-year-old Redford woman allegedly fired a handgun into the air during a fight after closing time.

After the shooting, Birmingham Police Chief Don Studt said police would be increasing enforcement downtown, noting, "This type of dangerous behavior is unacceptable by any standard and will not be tolerated."

Only South, the Hamilton Room and Chen Chow are impacted by the shorter valet hours, according to a police dispatcher. Other restaurants with valet parking — such as Mitchell's Fish Market and Fleming's Prime Steakhouse — close at 11 p.m., as does their valet service.

In a letter shared with Birmingham Patch written by South co-owner Steve Peurtas and addressed to Studt, Puertas said he was concerned with public safety should valet service not be offered when South closes at 2 a.m.

"Our security is normally posted at our entrance ... and are readily available to intercede if any issues should arise," he said. "By restricting valet, you are now requiring people to walk to their cars wherever they may be — the public parking spaces, as well as parking structures and residential streets. All of those areas have less security, are not in a controlled environment and are less likely to be safe."

According to Peurtas, South only offers valet service Thursday through Sunday. Hamilton Room and Chen Chow offer valet Friday and Saturday.

'We were blindsided,' bar owner says

Valet service also ends two hours earlier now at The Hamilton Room and Chen Chow, other popular spots that were the scene of other recent late-night fights.

"We were blindsided," said Eric Doelle, CEO and president the Dali Group, owner of each business as well as the adjacent Barrio. "There's been no conversation with police or the city. We just got a letter."

In a phone interview late Friday afternoon, Doelle declined to speculate on the possible financial impact if some patrons leave earlier.

"I don't think that will happen," he said, "But the impact is completely unknowable until after this weekend. I've never run it the other way" — meaning without Friday and Saturday valet service until closing. "We don't know if it'll be a pain in our butt or how our customers will react."

Doelle's nightspots are located on North Old Woodward and Hamilton Row in the same building as the Palladium 12 movie theater. Doelle said he wasn't sure what kind of parking problem might occur without valet service.

"We'll have to see if this creates problems in parking structures," Doelle said

Two weeks ago, Birmingham police requested backup from two nearby departments to handle fighting and a crowd outside Chen Chow and officers responded at 2 a.m. April 1 to a fight in the Hamilton Room's bar area involving a group of men. No one was arrested either night.

Security a priority at South, owner says

As to how long the mandated closing time for valet will be in effect, Puertas said the letter from the city didn't indicate whether the change was indefinite or temporary. City Manager Bob Bruner and Studt were unavailable for comment Friday evening.

However, Peurtas said Bruner did respond to Peurtas' email with a note Friday afternoon, saying the police department plans to monitor the situation and will make changes as necessary.

Puertas is concerned because South has several bar mitzvahs and bat mitzvahs scheduled in the coming months, and said the lack of valet service late at night might cause confusion when big groups try to leave. "I think it could potentially cause more problems in the parking structures," he said. "Now (people) are going to be parking on the street and in the parking structures."

In addition, Puertas said he and South co-owner Joeseph Spadafore have worked hard over the past year to create a safe environment at South, noting the shooting was first police incident at the bar and restaurant this year.

"We realize these kinds of places are going to take more supervision. We've been pretty diligent since the Braylon incident in general," he said, referring to an Aug. 1 incident in which two men said to be part of New York Jets wide receiver Braylon Edwards' group were accused of stabbing two bouncers at South during a fight.

According to Peurtas, South hasn't made any dramatic changes in the security staff since the shooting, noting there are six to eight security personnel working on any given weekend night.

Still, Peurtas said he and Spadafore live in Birmingham, have young children and feel terrible about what happened.

"It's gut-wrenching to us," he said. "And we feel terrible about what happened. We believe it's not just a South problem. It's a problem that's going on everywhere. We just feel if people can work together, and quit blaming people, we can look at the real problem."

  • Is it a good idea to shut down valet service at midnight?

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    • No - it's an inconvenience and/or safety issue
        43 (30%)
    • Yes - it should cut down on problems
        95 (66%)
    • Not sure
        4 (2%)
    Total votes: 142
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Related Topics: Chen Chow Brasserie, Crime, Parking, South Bar, The Hamilton Room, birmingham safety, and valet
What do you think about valet service ending early at these three bars and restaurants? Tell us in the comments.

Yolanda Jefferson

4:36 am on Saturday, April 14, 2012

Puertas & Spadafore failed in the work they claim to have done for safety.

One time I used valet at South, my iPhone and some loose change was missing from my car.

Other times I walk past South, the valets had nearly ran me over.

So, I think police involvement and closing down the valets early is a positive thing.

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Yolanda Jefferson

4:36 am on Saturday, April 14, 2012

I think closing the valets early is wonderful news!

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Eric Vargas

4:36 am on Saturday, April 14, 2012

Valet parking companies would still have to stay on site in case vehicles were not claimed prior to 12am...this is a challenge for them as then the need to find the owners of whatever number of keys they have on hand upon closing at midnight.

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GW

8:52 am on Saturday, April 14, 2012

In this article Puertas' true colors come out. This is a great move to calm things down around town late at night. Great job by the Birmingham Police Department and city management.

Also, if Play Birmingham is to be such a family-oriented enterprise as its reps content, why don't they shut down each night at eleven p.m.?

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Mary Kubitskey

8:53 am on Saturday, April 14, 2012

Who's leaving a bar a midnight BECAUSE THE VALET IS CLOSING??? Birmingham has to step up at close these bars a midnight (like Cameron's, Mitchell's, Flemings and others) or find a way to provide security. Don't put this problem on the valet companies.

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Ryan M.

8:53 am on Saturday, April 14, 2012

The valet at each of these locations parks a good distance from the building and there is usually a rush at the end of the night. This is a prime opportunity for an altercation to break out. Maybe this will help to disburse the crowd at the end of the night. If they can't get a handle on this, I hope they change their liquor license so they can't serve until 2 am. This is Birmingham, the place where my parents let me go wherever I wanted when I was a kid and didn't worry. Not that kind of place anymore...

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allysin nicoll

8:54 am on Saturday, April 14, 2012

It is a south bar issue. They have brought all the "trash" from surrounding areas to Birmingham. As a Bloomfields Hills resident I would frequent Birmingham quite often but now chose Royal Oak where I feel safer.

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Birmingham Bum

3:50 am on Sunday, April 15, 2012

royal oak a lot safer? hello lady have you been to emagine theater on a friday night?

SW1

8:54 am on Saturday, April 14, 2012

So this is the valet companies fault? Why punish them? How about closing/cutting off liquor at South, Chen Chow and Hamilton Room at midnight?

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Wendy Weir

10:07 am on Saturday, April 14, 2012

This is an excellant suggestion - leave the valet - close the bar - at midnight...and ...MAYBE...these people will have the chance to "sober up" they can still hang out - but who needs to "drink" till 2am anyway??? That is just trouble waiting to happen...take away the "availability" for them to get more intoxicated !!!

David Hohendorf

10:02 am on Saturday, April 14, 2012

There is still time to sign the online petition asking the city to run their investigation, hold a hearing, then ask the state to revoke the license at South. http://tinyurl.com/7qtnc8h

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David Olsen

8:27 am on Saturday, April 21, 2012

Oh thanks for the reminder David H. There's also more time for you to get a life and learn how to operate a non-biased publication. I can start a petition for you if you think that will help?

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Stephanie P. SOUTH supporter!

10:13 pm on Saturday, April 21, 2012

Great post David Olsen! I wonder the same thing myself. I posted this on a recent article on the Downtown Publication's website but no reply... what do you think?

I wonder why you aren't printing the facts? I find it odd that as journalists you would start a petition and misrepresent the actual events that have taken place at South. Read your list of public safety issues in Birmingham posted today alone. And, 10 gun incidents in Birmingham recently, are you petitioning to close all of those businesses? No fight in South the night of this incident, it was an hour after closing and down the street. I just found out she was only charged with a misdemeanor.
No bar is perfect, but South has NOT had the history you are trying to portray. Or, make up. Really makes me wonder, might this publication have an ulterior motive for trying to shut down South?

Richard Roden

10:02 am on Saturday, April 14, 2012

Closing down the valets at midnight doesnt fix the problem. Close the bars at midnight so you eliminate after midnight crowd which is when trouble starts.

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Alan Stamm

10:40 am on Saturday, April 14, 2012

Sobering fact, Richard, Ryan, Mary and SW1:
Alcohol sales hours for Class C licensees such as restaurants and clubs are state-regulated, beyond the reach of our commission and police department.

The eight elected commissioners can oppose applicants' licensing or renewal requests. They and the police chief can notify the Michigan Liquor Control Commission of actions or activities they believe violate regulations. But they can't change last call or first call.

"An on-premises licensee shall not sell, give away or furnish alcoholic liquor between the hours of 2 a.m. and 7 a.m. on any day nor between the hours of 2 a.m. and 12 noon on Sunday." -- Rule 3 (1), Sect. 215 of Public Act 58 (1998)

Craig C. Backus

10:41 am on Saturday, April 14, 2012

Is it really the bars that are the problem and not the people that patron them? If the bars are the problem, why not ban them? Wait, let's outlaw alcohol while we're at it! Oh, but wait, then a number of businesses in Downtown Birmingham would close and wouldn't be paying taxes anymore........ and they wouldn't be paying taxes on the liquor sales to the State of Michigan. Without these taxes, then the City would have to cut back on staff....... you see, there aren't many simple answers here, but clamping down on the businesses first seems overly simplistic and absolves the people that drink too much of their own behavior. Why not become a community that doesn't tolerate drunk driving? Birmingham is known for aggressive parking enforcement so why not point the extra policing at the few people who don't know how to control themselves.

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Stan Galli

11:59 am on Saturday, April 14, 2012

Wow, that's a relatively reasonable argument. I wonder why I had to page all the way down here to find one finally!!

R. Bloomberg

1:53 pm on Saturday, April 14, 2012

A Bat or Bar Mitvah at a bistro lasting longer than 11 p.m. where shootings and stabbings have been reported? Not my kids. Or any of my friends.

No way. I wouldn't go, nor do I know anyone who would even book a bistro for a Jewish religious ceremony.

You've got to be kidding me!

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Alan Stamm

4:25 pm on Saturday, April 14, 2012

This is an attempt to clarify, not to speak for or defend the business:

South has multiple identities during the week, such as "Family Day" promotions each Monday from 6-8 p.m. with crafts, kid dance tunes, face painting and $2.99 meals. Pop in during weekday lunchtime and you'd see brokers, bankers, attorneys, retailers, shoppers and parents with kids,

Events for up to 30 can be booked at two private dining rooms or the 200-person nightclub can be reserved for receptions, business events (Adcraft Club of Detroit hosted one Thursday night with Free Beer -- a band, I hasten to add), or -- yes -- Jewish religious ceremony after-parties. As at any private function, the area isn't open to the public then (although the adjoining dining room is).

Lastly, at risk of nitpicking, South is a restaurant-nightclub (or lounge) -- not a holder of one of Birmingham's bistro licenses for restaurants with up to 65 seats and no live entertainment.

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R. Bloomberg

5:43 pm on Saturday, April 14, 2012

Whether a BAR or BISTRO or LOUNGE, one this it is....it's DANGEROUS!!!

Whatever it is, its self formulated reputation precedes it.

I'll pass on "popping in", especially with kids, at the risk of having them shot at or stabbed.

And to clarify, I support - not fight - the BIRMINGHAM POILICE and would suggest that the South Bar people do the same.

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David Olsen

6:59 am on Thursday, December 6, 2012

Don't worry Ron! Despite the looks of your last name, you're obviously not invited to the Bar Mitzvah party, so don't worry about attending because you didn't make the invite list. Maybe you should check it out though to give yourself a more open-minded opinion of South.

Colleen Moore

2:41 pm on Saturday, April 14, 2012

I am so glad the City and the police are finally taking the criminal activity at South and the other two bars seriously. Our community cannot tolerate violent, drunken behavior. I hope closing valet service early will improve the situation, but it will not completely solve the problem. The City and police really shouldn't let up on South until its liquor license is revoked, or its owners realize they're in the wrong location and move South to a community more accepting of the lewd, violent and dangerous actions of its clientele.

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Ed Lambert

5:58 pm on Saturday, April 14, 2012

If South heads far enough south on Woodward, it will find itself smack dab in the middle of a large city that demonstrates it is more accepting of scruffy clientele. That large city is nowhere near the size it once was, largely because of its acceptance of bahavior that most people shun.

Keepin' It Classy

10:53 pm on Saturday, April 14, 2012

If the owners of South want me to tell the police something about the notice to close the valet just let me know.

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Birmingham Bum

3:38 am on Sunday, April 15, 2012

Valet parking isn't the real issue here at hand, it's obviously a lot bigger than what a lot of people can even begin to process. It seems funny to me that a crackdown on the clubs and their valet service starts immediately after a story is published with channel 4 on how a lady shot of her .22 hand gun in the air after an altercation. Seems to me someone is afraid of losing their job, board members possibly? We all understand how residents can be furious with the bars on all the recent issues like this one, but what we all seem to forget is that the same city you are living in granted those bars their liquor license and haven't revoked them yet. If you bham residers are so mad you should take up your frustration with the city officials and how your police department is ran. Quick breakdown: City employs around 35 patrol officers. With that broken down into a typical 3 shift day and night, per a seven day work week, it averages to around to 2 police officers working a Friday and Saturday night. Why is everyone so surprised that there are so many problems? There isn't the proper protection available to make sure that a small ordeal doesn't escalate into a huge problem, and it does every time! 2 cops vs 45 drunken and fuming people. It's right in front of your face. & the avg. wage of 75k for the police officers.. I guess I would want to close down bars too if I were paying taxes on people who don't even work.

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J Peter

3:33 pm on Monday, April 16, 2012

I respect the police for the great work they do and I'm glad the commission of the city is starting to take action. This is a positive step, and hopefully the first of several to improve the city and make birmingham a safe family community again.

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don mannis

10:39 am on Wednesday, April 18, 2012

Lol, an IPHONE was stolen? I wonder how many people lost thier keys last weekend? or left their phone on a table or?
FROM "THE PATCH"
Police are still looking for a cellphone stolen from a 17-year-old girl inside Cold Stone Creamery on Saturday evening.
I suggest you move to alaska Brittany..... Or start a petiion to close the Ice cream shop, I don't feel safe going in there anymore after all the crimes!

I would be more worried about teens from TROY walking around with M1 rifles down town, we should probably shut down the school bus service ...that should fix the problem.

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